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tv   Dinesh D Souza The Big Lie  CSPAN  October 9, 2017 1:00am-1:16am EDT

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. . . . most recent book is called exposé and then not the roots of the american left. you write in your book that if you wrote without knowing its source that could easily be
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forgiven for thinking tha that u were reading the 2016 platform of the democratic party. >> they issued an official platform that had a 25 points to it. and if you go down the list, you basically realize that they want a minimum wage, they want to have a national healthcare system. as you read down you begin to realize wait a minute, this runs against everything i've been taught because this has been an idea since world war ii bu thate right-wing phenomena so in the platform you realize this is collectivism and it bears a resemblance of socialism and to a lot of the ingredients of bernie sanders and the reign of the democratic party. so, very quickly a definition of
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fascism, socialism, marxism. how close are the political philosophies? >> it refers to the workers owning the means of production and later communism talked about the state owning the means of production. fascism is very similar. it simply means that the state while not owning the means of production direct them so the states direct fascism. modern progressivism is more like fascism and socialism because if you think about it but forgot obamacare. they are private companies that do that wit if the government controls them, so modern progressivism means the state is closer to fascism and socialism. >> you spent quite a bit of time with mussolini in your book,
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why? >> many people like fascism that hitler never called himself a fascist. it almost never appears in the entire book. hitler called himself a socialist. hitler wanted to marry nationalists with socialists but the difference is that he was a racist, an anti-semite. mussolini ultimately represent fascism and revered mussolini. he said that he is the last of the caesar so if you are looking for fascism at the beginning at its point of origin you have to look at mussolini. >> and you are saying that fascism is a left-wing politic
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political. it was by the anti-fascists and this is all at the time. later there was a religion that came in for the progressive writers in this regions that try to move into the right-wing column but take mussolini, he was the leader of the italian socialist party and the editor of the magazine at the fascism grew out of socialism. out of that exploration, fascism grew out of marxism so i'm not even saying anything that's controversial. there were dozens of original fascists in germany, italy, spain, england, all of this came from the left, the labor party, the socialist party in france, the communist party.
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after the war he went back to being a communist so this is what i excavate in the book. they look exactly like the blackshirts of mussolini. they block the speakers from speaking and this is exactly what they did but they call themselves and claim to be fighting fascism so how do you fight fascism while giving fascists stuff that's the paradox that i unravel in the book. why do you think since world war ii as you say we've considered fascism not to be on the right? >> it was very much with the left.
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he revered mussolini. fdr felt he was much ahead of them in implementing the progressive principles. after world war ii became associated with the holocaust and so the progressives were coming to dominate and they were like this is bad news so we've got to figure out how to move fascism into the right-wing column. we need to be dominant in academia and in the media. in other words you have to be able to pull off a big lie in the concept that was promulgated by hitler.
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it's hard to get your head around it and you don't know whether to attack it as a part of my exposé is to show one of the biggest lies is tha that its attributed to the right where it's been under the law of the left. transference is a psychology which people take things into playing them on other people. hitler says that they pose a threat to the world come hitler poses , hitlerposes a threat. they try to take over and make everybody like them. when they take over if they enforced the conformity said he was taking his own homicidal destructivhomicidaldistrict of s and trying to foist them on a
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scapegoat and receive the same thing in politics today the left is blaming the right for patterns of behavior that it invented. >> you also have a chapter on george soros. >> he claims to be the great anti-fascist. okay here's something first we e wilsomething for thiswe will tae the fact that he is inspired by libertarianism and in reality if you look at the past you realize it may seem harsh to say that this is true it was discussed by an interview which he asked what you go around confiscating the
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property turning it over to the nazis and how can you feel good about that and he said i don't feel good about that at all. let's remember if i didn't do that somebody would. this gets me thinking because i remember a powerful theme that involves the killer of auschwi auschwitz. he escaped after the war and went to argentina and one of his son tracked him down and confronted his father and said how could you do the things you do and guess what he said if i didn't do them somebody else would have. i saw the opportunity to make them into research so there is a parallel.
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i don't blame anybody for what they did at the age of 14 is now reflecting upon his past there's a lot of dark secrets. >> telling if i'm wrong in my reading of this but do you connect bangalore to planned parenthood? >> the collectivists always had a problem and that is what do we do with disposable people and at the top we are going to run societies that there are people we have to get rid of. they started out with gas chambers but with sterilization. they got those ideas from the american left because they were in the forefront of the movement. margaret sanger was in its provision for the early nazis and in 1933 decomposed
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sterilizations and remember they also put if not voluntary but mandatory stigmatization. they then moved on from that. american progressives is that if it doesn't work, euthanasia implement the eugenicist readers said we need gas chambers. when he went to argentina he was sheltered by neo-nazis and they told him listen if you want to support yourself you need to have a profession. he became an abortionist. p. set up shop as an abortionist and carry out abortions until his death by drowning so it isn't a flight of the imagination. there's a deep connection between the same kind of philosophy and the monthly
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sterilization program on the other. >> this is the latest book exposing the nazi roots of the american left area thank you for being on book tv. >> my pleasure. >> booktv has covered many books. if you are interested in hearing or from this best-selling author, go to the website at and in the search bar you will find a large archive of titles. all of these programs are available to watch online. booktv recently visited capitol hill to ask embers of congress what they are reading. here's what oklahoma congressman steve russell had to say. >> i read all kinds of stuff. i'm a voracious history reader. there are some i just finished a fiction book i should say i'm not much on fiction but i did
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finish a book by derek robinson. was kind of a podcast on a world war i setting that kind of reflects the times that i have a great interest in world war i. my great-grandfather and his brothers were world war i veterans. one was killed in the first world war and since we are in the hundredth anniversary of our entry into the war and our participations i've been reading quite a bit about that time. >> you are also an author as well because he talked about your experience as an author. >> i have a great respect for those that take the time to write. my wartime memoir published by simon and schuster was called we
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got him about the hunt and capture. it took me three years to write extensive notes and personal experiences and then getting it to the major publisher is no small task. the big question is who helped you write it as an infantryman could put sentences together so it's something i get often but it takes great discipline to do it so i have a lot of respect for the authors that are out there and the book got good reviews so that's always nice when you get the public to appreciate what you wrote. >> do you have any advice for other writers to draw from their experience of history? >> i would say whether he can get something published or not you should take the time to write for the experience is the result. it kind of. some old when it allowed me to have a therapeutic process. it is difficult to write and
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relive many of those experiences but at the same time, when i got it done i felt like okay i got it out of my system and there it is. so whether you do i did it for r own personal notes or for your family so they might have a record of your service later on i would encourage all better in that house participated in combat experiences to write about those that couldn't cover story and tell what they accomplished >> good evening, everyone and welcome. i'm the andrew mellon director of the research library, and it is my


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